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#FASuccess Ep 434: Attracting HNW Shoppers By Focusing Not On Property However Legacy Planning As a substitute, With Vanessa N. Martinez


Welcome everybody! Welcome to the 434th episode of the Monetary Advisor Success Podcast!

My visitor on at this time’s podcast is Vanessa N. Martinez. Vanessa is the CEO of Expressive Wealth, an RIA based mostly in Chicago, Illinois, that oversees $135 million in belongings beneath administration for roughly 70 shopper households, together with 10 ‘core’ ultra-high-net-worth households.

What’s distinctive about Vanessa, although, is how her agency, along with making certain shoppers have established a ‘conventional’ property plan specializing in the environment friendly switch of their belongings, works with its high-net-worth shoppers on what Vanessa calls “legacy planning” with the intention to not solely go down their belongings to the following technology, but in addition the dad and mom’ household values that generated their wealth as nicely.

On this episode, we speak in-depth about how Vanessa engages in a multi-meeting discovery course of with shoppers (to first perceive the place they stand at this time with regard to property planning and intra-family communication, after which to dig deeper into what the shopper needs to realize by way of their legacy), how Vanessa has shoppers contemplate their household values for every of the buildup, preservation, and distribution phases of their lifetimes (leaving room open to amend these values as their life and monetary circumstances change over time), and why Vanessa has shoppers write down their values and legacy objectives each to make sure their permanence (and to forestall misunderstandings that may develop when values are merely communicated verbally like the phone recreation down the household tree over time).

We additionally discuss how Vanessa’s intimate involvement in her shoppers’ lives (from attending main life occasions to supporting relations going by way of life transitions) helps drive shopper referrals to their pals in comparable life (and monetary) conditions, how Vanessa makes use of neighborhood-based shopper occasions (comparable to a ‘shares and sip’ night of monetary training and wine sipping) to attract in a choose group of shoppers and their pals (with out having any awkwardness for not inviting her full shopper roster that do not dwell in that neighborhood), and the way Vanessa has discovered success holding shopper occasions on Thursday nights on condition that attendees are sometimes an excellent temper (with just one workday left within the week) whereas additionally avoiding filling up a helpful weekend evening that prospects will not be keen to let go of to satisfy her.

And make certain to take heed to the top, the place Vanessa shares how she makes use of a practising psychologist in a “Chief Medical Officer” position to supply persona and communication assessments for her group and to facilitate communication when she brings collectively shoppers and their kids in a household assembly to debate the outcomes of her legacy exploration train, how Vanessa has discovered that getting shoppers to give attention to their legacy whereas nonetheless alive can permit them to reply questions from their kids and to ultimately deepen their relationship with their youngsters earlier than any wealth is inherited, and why Vanessa finally views legacy planning as a method for shoppers to share their tales with the following technology in order that they worth not simply the {dollars} they’ll obtain but in addition the emotional and mental wealth being handed on to them as nicely.

So, whether or not you are excited about studying concerning the distinction between property and legacy planning, the way to interact in deep legacy planning conversations with shoppers, or utilizing intimate shopper occasions to draw new prospects, then we hope you take pleasure in this episode of the Monetary Advisor Success podcast, with Vanessa N. Martinez.

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